DAVID SWANSON: I don't think so.
HARVEY WASSERMAN: Oh its spectacular. You really should get it. It's a video but is also a CD.
DAVID SWANSON: Okay.
HARVEY WASSERMAN: Here's Leonard Cohen. He's 76 years old, right, and he's been a Zen guy and I guess somebody ran off with all his money, so he has to go out on tourniquet. How many 76-year-olds are out on tourniquet? It's an incredible piece and he has this one line in there where he says he studied for years and years, he took Prozac and he names Wellbutrin and he names like every antidepressant and he says and he also studied all the major religions but cheerfulness keeps seeping through. And you know, he also has a great line, he says there's a crack in everything, that's how the light gets in. And so my feeling is, OK, these guys are going to be corporate, they're going to do everything they can to gut the educational system, and train us, train us, train us that we can't make a difference, and that everything has to be the profit motive, and look you elected this guy Obama and look what he turned out to be. But, I believe essentially that we're irrepressible as a species, and that sooner or later the survival mechanism breaks through. And the point of Obama is OK, everyone went out worked and we did this, and people believed and maybe deluded ourselves, ut what choice did we have, but we did succeed in finally putting an African-American in the White House. As a historian I look at these charts on the wall and I see all these white guys, and then all of a sudden there's a black guy. Something happened. And then there will be a woman. OK that part of it we are succeeding.
And we also had this movement in 2008, and people did rise up. And so the outcome hasn't been what we wanted, but maybe it's more important that people did rise up. You can't underestimate the power of the movement in 2008 to put him in the White House, and that movement, that momentum, still happens. A lot has been written about Kennedy was a terrible disappointment. But all those people rose up and there was this revolution of rising expectations. So we still have this momentum. . . .
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