DEPT.OF JUSTICE VERSUS NEW YORK STATE
&
VOTERS RIGHTS TO SECURE ELECTIONS
What's happening...Why ...What's at stake...What's next
Federal take-Over of New York Election Process?
Will Voting Machine Vendors win and Citizens lose?
Impact on the Country & Election 2008?
Get the latest news (& fireworks) on this important story
"Voice of the Voters!"
Wednesday, November 7 8pm ET 1360 AM Greater Philadelphia Area and on the Internet (http://wnjc.duxpond.com/ or www.voiceofthevoters.org)
SPECIAL GUESTS
Bo Lipari, Executive Director New Yorkers for Verified Voting
Andi Novick, attorney; founder of Northeast Citizens for Responsible Media
DOJ suggests the Court should appoint an official to achieve compliance, taking it out of the state's hands:
"In the absence of evidence of the demonstrated ability and willingness of
the SBOE itself to make immediate progress toward these goals as reflected
in new and/or existing Court mandates, the Court may have to consider taking
compliance out of the hands of the State and placing it in the hands of the
Court or others appointed by the Court to achieve compliance with federal law."
"In the absence of evidence of the demonstrated ability and willingness of
the SBOE itself to make immediate progress toward these goals as reflected
in new and/or existing Court mandates, the Court may have to consider taking
compliance out of the hands of the State and placing it in the hands of the
Court or others appointed by the Court to achieve compliance with federal law."
From Bo Lipari:
"The DOJ has issued a long awaited opinion in the US District Court case against New York State. NY has maintained (among other things) that no existing system complies with New York State regulations thus far, and until such time as we complete the rigorous certification process called for by NY law, we cannot in good conscience put new voting systems in place.
The DOJ is arguing that not only must NY replace all lever machines by September 2008, but Federal law is the controlling law, and the state has no right to impose higher standards than called for at the federal level.
This is a very scary assumption - a state has no right to put high voting machine standards in place than Congress has called for....this sounds to me like good news for voting machine vendors, and bad news for citizens."
The DOJ is arguing that not only must NY replace all lever machines by September 2008, but Federal law is the controlling law, and the state has no right to impose higher standards than called for at the federal level.
This is a very scary assumption - a state has no right to put high voting machine standards in place than Congress has called for....this sounds to me like good news for voting machine vendors, and bad news for citizens."
From Andi Novick:
"To those of you who care about the people's right to honest elections I am sharing my initial response to the latest effort of the DOJ to force NY to vote on theft-enabling machines. Tomorrow at noon is the regularly scheduled State Board of Elections meeting-- anyone who can get to Albany tomorrow for this should be there because the pressure on the SBOE to cave into the federal government's demand that NY buy any non-certified, failed, non-functional, corrupt, piece of junk voting machines in time for the 2008 election was just turned up to high (see below).
Attached is the Memo of Law I just received this morning that was submitted by the DOJ in response to NY's not yet having complied with the feds' plan to steal elections on a national basis. I have read the memo very quickly and wanted to put this out now- while I'm thinking about it, so others might share in the deliberations of what is to be done. I welcome all comments and ideas and contributions.
I am fed up with pretending that the DOJ isn't the political tool that it is seeking to impose any number of the 14 characteristics of fascism, in this case the 14th on the list- see http://ellensplace.net/fascism.html. I am not willing to act as if the DOJ should be given legitimacy when we all see the evidence - the attorney general firings, voter ID laws, replacement of anyone in the department who would actually protect the rights of voters and of course Mr. Tanner's recent admissions, if anyone needed more proof. . Therefore the DOJ- which is insisting in this Memo of Law that NY purchase the very machines which have been shown to be hackable in minutes and which cannot and will not produce accurate, reliable election results and ensure that we'll never know what the results are because all the counting will be done in secret-- is the enemy of us all and perhaps we can find some common ground.
In essence what the DOJ memo says can be summarized as follows- the part in parentheses being my reading between the lines and the rest is really what the DOJ says:
We (that would be Mr. Tanner and friends) don't really care that you in NY are having a problem because Microsoft won't give you its source code (cause we don't have a problem with secret vote counting); nor do we care that you have stricter laws than HAVA and therefore there are no computers that comply with your stricter NY Laws (nor any computers that comply with the VVSG 2005 guidelines altho Mr. Tanner and friends conveniently doesn't mention the federal guidelines and that little problem). It's just great that you have stricter laws, but it's really not our (the corrupt tool of the criminal administration's plan to remove people from the voting process's) problem. You still have to buy the computers being sold by the (highly corrupt) private vendors because we the DOJ say that's good enough to satisfy HAVA (because how else are we going to be able to control New York's electorate unless you cooperate NY)."
As always, John Gideon, Executive Director of Voters Unite will provide a report on key breaking voting news, with commentary.
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