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Here are a few more comments on electronic voting and Holt's HR 550. I have more waiting in the wings. Stay tuned! Write in your responses. I'll keep going as long as I have something to post. (I'm trying to keep the columns a reasonable length, but writers often have a lot to say and I prefer not to edit to keep the original flavor.)

Joan
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bev@blackboxvoting.org writes:

I think that with this 2 percent audit, it will be used by elections officials
and parroted in the media to "prove" that the election went "fine."

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How large do I have to write it? BINGO!

This is precisely what will happen, based on the sum total of our experience and just a little cynical wisdom. Because:

Elections Do Not Take Place In The Laboratory

This is why we're falling into the trap if we get caught up on the 2% NUMBER. The NUMBER is not the major problem, the way the sample is designed (sampling 2% of precincts) is the problem.

--Jonathan Simon, Verified Vote 2004

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in response to an opposing comment, Bev Harris writes:

I have read his bill (HR 550) in detail. The issue is the audits. I do not recommend that
citizens enable a federal law that will put a 2 percent cap on the right to
audit, and worse -- hand the right to audit over to the EAC, an organization
led by political appointees and populated with some of the worst of the
elections industry perps who got us into this mess in the first place.

I see the hand of computer scientists in designing the audits, and I see the
hand of politicians, but what I do not see is two things:

1) CPAs -- especially forensic CPAs -- and statisticians. Can you provide the
name of any forensic CPA or statistician (not person who has taken statistics;
what I'm looking for here is a real statistician) who believes the "audit" in
the Holt bill is meaningful?

And even if such were found and corroborated your belief that the audit is
meaninful, we're still missing the second item:

2) The preservation of our civil right to count ALL the ballots.

Turning the right to "audit" over to the EAC does not enable citizen oversight.
The position of Black Box Voting is that citizen oversight is what
counts.

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Joan Brunwasser is a co-founder of Citizens for Election Reform (CER) which since 2005 existed for the sole purpose of raising the public awareness of the critical need for election reform. Our goal: to restore fair, accurate, transparent, secure elections where votes are cast in private and counted in public. Because the problems with electronic (computerized) voting systems include a lack of (more...)
 

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