Kall: And you talk about there being war against the middle class, and Bill Moyers has talked about it too of course. Do you want to talk about that?
Wolf: I’m not sure I distinguish war against the middle class from a general war against citizens. I suggest that’s a subset of what we need to understand the bailout is, which is not a stupid move in a strong capitalist democracy; it’s the conventional act of Latin American oligarchs seizing the treasury. I mean, look at the Philippines, look at Haiti: people go in, and they plunder the treasury, and they give the stuff to their friends, and there’s no accountability, and they don’t care if it destroys the economy. They don’t care as long as they’re in their gated communities with the treasury parceled out among themselves. People have to get what they’re looking at: they’re looking at normal behavior in a police state in terms of the financial transactions.
Kall: So what can we expect to see in the next one, two, three months, between now and the Inauguration?
Wolf: Well—God. I mean, it depends on us. I think what citizens have to realize is that, as they’re waking up, they’re beating back some of the worst of it, but they have to stay vigilant. For instance, there was this horrible bill, H.R. 1955, which was going to criminalize speech like this conversation, the “thought crimes” bill. And citizens woke up, and they pushed it back and resisted, so it hasn’t come down the pipe yet. If we stay passive, I’m afraid we’re going to see some deployment of the First Brigade somewhere in America or some tampering with the election or, God forbid, a declaration of martial law or a state of emergency. Why not?
Kall: I predict that the first use of that First Brigade will be one that looks legitimate, the use of it after a hurricane or a blizzard or something like that?
Wolf: They actually did that already, because Karl Rove is so smart. They deployed them actually after a hurricane, I believe in Alabama, to kind of get us used to the idea that they’re here for good. But those jobs are jobs that are done by the National Guard and by certain medical corps and emergency corps. It affected this fascinating discussion that I blogged about among military people and National Guard people saying, “Why does the First Brigade have to come in and do this? We’re taking care of those jobs.”
You’re quite right: We’re going to get eased into it initially in benevolent circumstances, and then suddenly you’ll have a Praetorian Guard. So that’s what I’m afraid of, God forbid. I’ve been saying for a year that, in a closing society, leading up to an election, you start to see, in the last weeks and months, hyped threats, crises, and instability to give the leader a chance to intervene, to give the leader a chance to tamper with the vote.
People don’t understand that dictators love elections. They’re always having elections; they just make sure the elections are corrupted and that their guy or girl gets in. And that’s how I see Sarah Palin, as the kind of heir to this police state push. Not so much John McCain; I think they’re calculating that he won’t—I wrote a blog about the nature of his illness and his demographic, and I think they’re calculating that—
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