382 online
 
Most Popular Choices
Share on Facebook 65 Printer Friendly Page More Sharing Summarizing
OpEdNews Op Eds    H3'ed 10/11/16

Sex, lies, videotape...and hacked emails: Debate #2 Lost by Hillary Clinton on Points

By       (Page 1 of 4 pages)   24 comments

Dave Lindorff
Message Dave Lindorff
Become a Fan
  (89 fans)

By Dave Lindorff

'Debate' II was an empty exercise...because of the exclusion of Jill Stein
'Debate' II was an empty exercise...because of the exclusion of Jill Stein
(Image by ThisCantBeHappening!)
  Details   DMCA

The "town-meeting"-formatted "debate" between Donald Trump and Hillary Clinton Sunday night was, as could have been expected, a disappointing affair, with the two moderators generally avoiding any real challenge to the lies and distortions of the two candidates and declining to push them into critical areas that have been ignored throughout this fall's presidential campaign -- like climate change, an increasingly dangerous conflict between nuclear powers that could trigger a likely nuclear world war, and the worsening income gap in the US which, let's face it, neither candidate has a program or even a desire to combat.

On balance though, while both candidates were awful, I would say the night went worse for Clinton. Trump's challenge in this second outing, coming right after the release of an 11-year-old video in which he boasted of assaulting women, was firstly to defuse that damaging revelation, and secondly to avoid losing his cool and making outrageous extemporaneous statements that would worsen his standing as a sober "leader." He largely met both challenges, apologizing for his lewd boasting and his obnoxious and abusive behavior as described in the video, which he dismissed as "locker-room talk" that he wasn't proud of, and sticking for the most part to criticisms of Clinton's actual actions (and inaction) and to her words. His performance probably was adequate to at least staunch the stream of defections of Republican candidates and Republican voters from his campaign and support base.

Clinton meanwhile, had the challenge of trying to get the public to trust her. In this she failed miserably. Smirking frequently when she was being accused of serious crimes and of blatant and repeated lying by her opponent, she clumsily tried to dodge some serious and valid charges made against her by Trump. These on-screen actions and lame efforts to change the subject will only succeed in making her less trusted by those voters who have still not made up their minds about which candidate, if any, to back on November 8.

For example, when Trump hammered at her for having deleted and then "bleached" from her hard drive over 30,000 emails -- actions taken after she had already received subpoenas for them -- she tried to dodge the issue by referring, in a complete non-sequitor, to the 50,000 emails that "I did provide." It was hardly an adequate response, and effectively simply confirmed her crime of obstruction. The two moderators, CNN's Anderson Cooper and ABC's Martha Raddatz, did nothing to press her on this failure to respond.

Clinton was even worse when it came to the matter of statements we now finally have learned she made in those secret private and highly-paid speeches she give to executives of some of the world's biggest banks -- speeches she for almost a year has stubbornly refused to make public. Portions were released over the weekend by Wikileaks which had obtained emails hacked from Clinton 2016 Campaign Chair John Podesta's email server.

Thanks to those hacked emails, we now know that Clinton told executives at Goldman Sachs, one of the felonious too-big-to-fail banks whose toxic mortgage products brought us the 2008 fiscal crisis and the resulting Great Recession that is still dragging down incomes and ruining lives in the US, speaking thusly of progressive forces inside the Democratic Party membership:

Next Page  1  |  2  |  3  |  4

(Note: You can view every article as one long page if you sign up as an Advocate Member, or higher).

Must Read 8   Well Said 3   Supported 3  
Rate It | View Ratings

Dave Lindorff Social Media Pages: Facebook Page       Twitter page url on login Profile not filled in       Linkedin page url on login Profile not filled in       Instagram page url on login Profile not filled in

Dave Lindorff, winner of a 2019 "Izzy" Award for Outstanding Independent Journalism from the Park Center for Independent Media in Ithaca, is a founding member of the collectively-owned, journalist-run online newspaper (more...)
 

Go To Commenting
The views expressed herein are the sole responsibility of the author and do not necessarily reflect those of this website or its editors.
Writers Guidelines

 
Contact AuthorContact Author Contact EditorContact Editor Author PageView Authors' Articles
Support OpEdNews

OpEdNews depends upon can't survive without your help.

If you value this article and the work of OpEdNews, please either Donate or Purchase a premium membership.

STAY IN THE KNOW
If you've enjoyed this, sign up for our daily or weekly newsletter to get lots of great progressive content.
Daily Weekly     OpEd News Newsletter
Name
Email
   (Opens new browser window)
 

Most Popular Articles by this Author:     (View All Most Popular Articles by this Author)

Israel's Gaza Atrocities Recall America's Atrocities in Vietnam

Looming climate catastrophe?: A Rapidly Warming Arctic Could Loose a Methane Climate Bomb Causing Extinction in 9 Years

Supreme Court Junket King Scalia Dies While Vacationing with Wealthy Patrons at Private West Texas Getaway

Something's happening here: Clinton's Crumbling, Bernie's Surging and a 'Political Revolution' May Be in the Offing

The Case for Impeachment of President Barack Obama

Barack Obama: Manchurian Candidate Version 2.0

To View Comments or Join the Conversation:

Tell A Friend