Kall: okay, well you’re talking about the extreme orthodox...
Hedges: no, I'm talking about Netanyahu, and Olmert, and Livni and Ahoud Barack - they have a messianic vision of their role in the Middle East and it is one that they are going to remove the scourge of human impediments towards a powerful Israel - one that can't be challenged. And they are as misguided as the messianic Muslims who make up Hamas and their messianic allies in the White House who believe they talk to Jesus
Kall: do they represent the majority in Israel?
Hedges: no. They don't represent the majority in the same way that George Bush never represented the majority of Americans, you know from that aspect. You know, Israel, but that's another discussion, but the Israeli political system is so fragmented that the right has essentially always been in power in coalitions, because the only two things they want are the expansion of settlements and a hard-line military policy. And as long as you give them that they'll go along with everything else. So that's part of the confusion of Israeli politics that have even in the labor dominated coalitions, allowed the right wing to carry out these policies of seizing Palestinian land and tightening the screws on Palestinians
Kall: so to wrap things up, any advice to listeners or readers on what they can do to make a difference?
Hedges: divestment – moving in divestment campaigns. I think that we have - I mean we carry a lot of clout, and I think that divestment is big - I mean getting institutions to divest holdings within Israel. I think that anyway we can begin to punish Israel or create pressure on the Israeli government to moderate their policies is probably the most effective tactic at this point
Kall: okay. Thank you so much
Hedges: thanks for having me -
Kall: Rob Kall, bottom-up radio show, 1360 WNJC. Good night.
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