Marina Sitrin is the author of Horizontalism: Voices of Popular Power in Argentina and it seemed like all the time when I was at the different Occupy Wall Street locales, the idea of horizontalism came at me, and almost always it was Marina Sitrin as the editor of this book whose name came associated with it. So, welcome to the show, Marina! Now, let me give a little bit more of a bio that I've collected on you. Marina Sitrin is a writer, lawyer, teacher, organizer and dreamer. She holds a Ph.D. in global sociology, and a J.D., that's a legal degree, in international Women's human rights. Her work focuses on social movements and justice, specifically looking at new forms of social organization, such as autogestion, horizontalidad, pre-figurative politics and new effective social relationships.
Rob: Now, let's talk about those banging pots and pans. What's the word that is used for that again?
Marina: Cacerola, a Cacerola is like a big pot. Yeah, so the Cacerolazo is the banging of pots and pans.
Rob: C-a-c-e-r-o-l-a, cacerola, right?
Marina: Uh-huh.
Rob: And this is something that hundreds of thousands of people went out into the streets and did, right?
Marina: Right, and regular people. So many people described this to me. People went out in flip flops. People went out in pajama tops. It was everybody. This was not some kind of activist scene at all. This was just everybody, your neighbor. Well, when millions of people go out in the street, it's a whole other thing.
Rob: Now. I have to say that OpEdnews, the site I publish, probably has published over a thousand articles on Occupy at this point, and I had one reader who would write to me every couple days and say, "Don't forget to talk about banging the pots and pans."
Marina: Really? Were they from Argentina? That's interesting.
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