Clive Boddy: I
don't know, is the top of the mind answer to that. I don't think many people
have really, or many organizations are very thorough in terms of, contacting
referees and people who have worked with people, to check to see if they are
okay individuals. I think these days it's very much, the person whose appointed
is the person who gives the best impression on the day of the interview. So
there's not much background checking anymore, by any organization I don't
think. And obviously there needs to be.
Rob Kall: And I'm
inclined to go back to my question about the idea of corporations actually
doing screeningss. You've said that this could be important and valuable but
they're not doing it. Do you see that as something that could develop or are we
to expect to see more and more psychopaths running, and at high levels of
corporations?
Clive Boddy: The
way society is going, and the way organizations are going, I think we're moving
towards having more and more of them emerge because of the speed of change
that's happening, and the way people are recruited. On the other hand, I think
the message about psychopaths existing at the corporate level is now fairly
well known, and therefore people more at the grassroots might demand, or come
to demand, that these people are properly screened before they're given very senior
jobs. And I think the higher the job, the more compelling the argument is to
check their backgrounds, and check the people they've worked with, and see what
kind of person they're really like.
Rob Kall: It'd be
interesting if there were some kind go crowd sourcing technology that would
allow employees to, in some way, report. But of course then the sociopaths
would have access to it too, and that's been a big concern of some of my
readers, that any technology that identifies sociopaths can be used by
sociopaths too. And perhaps, like that one banker that has been hiring
sociopaths screening for them.
Clive Boddy: Well
yes, quite, and I don't know how to get
around that I'm afraid.
Rob Kall: Yeah.
One of the things that interested me, is that in light of this global financial
crisis corporate psychopath theory, is you said that when large financial
corporations are destroyed by the actions of their senior directors, employees
lose their jobs, and sometimes their livelihoods, shareholders lose their
investments and sometimes their life savings, and societies lose key parts of the economic infrastructure.
Capitalism also loses some of its credibility.
Is capitalism threatened by corporate psychopaths?
Clive Boddy: If
you associate them with the global financial crisis, and the potential role
that they had with it, it's fair to say that crisis did threaten capitalism
itself, because it was so potentially destructive to the economic system of the
world.
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