JB: You're made of stern stuff, Bob. And how lucky we are that you are! Also, it's not like our current president has been friendly to either whistleblowers or probing journalists. I'm sad to say that Obama has made W look good, or at least better, in that department. Anything you'd like to add before we wrap this up?
BK: Your comment about Obama goes back to the idea that Trump, in all his egotistical blustering and political incorrectness, represents opportunity to begin making systemic changes at a deep level. Obama represents the hidden interests of the military-industrial status quo and so does Trump, but in a way that can't be quietly shrugged off. I'll end by quoting Deepak Chopra: "All great change is preceded by chaos." It's scary, but opportunity is always scary.
JB: Thanks, Bob. Always a pleasure. We never seem to run out of things to talk about, do we?
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Illuminating: Watch Amy Goodman interview Jill Stein about the recount, her motivation and more on Democracy Now.
Prior interviews with Bob:
It's About Time for the Human Race To Grow Up9.2.2016
Reaching Beyond the Candidates with Bob Koehler 8.4.2016
Bob Koehler, Peace Journalist, Feels the Bern 3.17.2016
Peace Journalist Bob Koehler on Presidential Politics and the American Soul 1.29.2016
Bob Koehler Reflects on Charleston Church Killings and the Larger Picture 6.24.2015
Journalist Robert C. Koehler says: Abolish the CIA!12.19.2014
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