Donald Barlett: Well you know this is" [laughing] now you're really getting tricky, because a lot of people, everyone likes to say they're middle class, and that's part of the problem. Even the richest of the rich like to say they're not, "we're middle class!" But it is the bulk of the population, would fall into that category.
James Steele: You know there's new definitions now on who's poor in this country.
Donald Barlett: And this is more interesting, actually.
James Steele: And which really raises all kinds of questions about who's fallen out of the middle class.
Rob Kall: Okay. Who's poor?
James Steele: I'm sorry, who's?
Rob Kall: Okay. Who's poor?
Donald Barlett: Well, the poverty numbers just came out, and you know you wind up with the, whatever it is, forty, fifty million people now in poverty. The poor is usually labelled.. you're considered two hundred percent of the poverty level, that poverty number. And the poverty number is a pretty grim number.
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