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Peggy Holman: Engaging Emergence; Moving Towards Order From Chaos-- Interview Transcript

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Peggy: Yep, so that speaks to the "What" as "Encourage Random Encounters" speaks to the "Who," and then "Seek Meaning," of course, speaks to "Why," and "Simplify" is ultimately guidance about "How."

 

Rob: Okay.  So, how do you use this? Can you give me an example of how you would use this in working with a group?

 

Peggy: I use it as a guide for design if I'm working with a group. Or... These different elements work together in different ways for me.  So, for example, if a disruption happens when I'm working with a group, at this point it's a reminder to me, "Okay, be welcoming. Get curious about it. Ask a possibility-orientated question." And where our natural tendency is to want to shut down and pull in, it's a reminder to try something different and open, in a way that can invite different perspectives to be present. But again, with that underlying ethic of welcome, and the clarity of intention of coming back to the sense of purpose. So it's a dance of these different elements.

 

   And, post-book, as I've been continuing to seek, "What's a simpler way to talk about it?" There's that little triumvirate that I think is a doorway in, of welcoming, inviting diversity, and asking possibility-orientated questions. And frankly, if you're in the moment and facing disruption and you're not sure what to do, ask a question that points to possibility. It's like my hip pocket idea. [It] is the most compassionate and creative act that I know to do, and actually I'll share a story around that one that was kind of an extreme.

 

   I have a colleague, an African American colleague, who was doing some work in New Orleans over a number of months, and he would go place his guitar in this park across from where he was working. And this one day out of the corner of his eye, he saw these three young men, lots of tattoos, shaved heads, and they seemed to be sneaking up on him. And so he put his guitar down, and he stood up and very softly said, "Stop where you are," and they stopped, and then started telling him in not very pretty language that he didn't belong in this park. It wasn't for people like him, and that they were going to make an object lesson of him. And he, at that point, whipped out a possibility-orientated question of, "Okay, before you do that, can I ask you a question and said, "What is it in your life experience that led you to wanting to do this?" And 45 minutes later the four of them were deeply in conversation about their worlds and experiences and life. And needless to say, it was a pretty profound shift for all of four of them actually. So, I guess that's one simple example of how I would work with this.

 

Rob: So, he talked them out of beating the crap out of him.

 

Peggy: And frankly, moved well beyond that, to a deeper consciousness about their own sense of selves, and their worldview, and where it came from, and why they might have gotten to a place where beating the crap out of him sounded like it would be a good thing to do, and let go of it.

 

Rob: So, maybe even went from him saving himself to saving them.

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