Rob: Where would people find more about commons thinkers?
BB: Well there's quite a number of different theorists and you know. What I would suggests for the average person is go on the internet and do a google search on social commons and you will find hoards and hoards of very interesting philosophic thinkers talking about it. If you wanted to go earlier than that, to before people, because the concept of social commons is fairly new, if you wanted to go earlier, the concept of people who talked about, who tried to balance collectivity with the rights and the needs for people to be individuals. You can go to anarchist thinkers like Paul Goodman and so on that have been writing about this for, you know, centuries now.
Rob: Okay so another topic that I've gotten into is the challenge, and feel free to question the wording. There's a challenge of people who are, have no care about others. Who are narcissistic, when it gets worse--
BB: I think we create that.
Rob: -- they're psychopaths and sociopaths.
BB: Okay psychopaths and sociopaths I would use sparingly. But are there people who appear to have no concern for anyone else, yes there are. I would say our society specializes in it. We create that. You know. That the way we run ourselves actually nurtures that way of being in the world. If we had a society that nurtured helping and caring, I don't think we would have thousands and thousands of people with such strong tendencies to only care about themselves.
Rob: It's millions of people, though.
BB: Sure it is. But we created that. That's not, you know, I think there is in nature a impulse to join with and to befriend, and impulse to destroy. So I think both of them are real. If we see, come across somebody who only has an impulse to destroy, then we have to ask what happened. Because the natural thing is to have both of those impulses.
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