Rob: And why don't you comment on the morality of this.
BB: Well the morality of this is obviously that it's unethical. That people are being damaged by a profession that takes an oath to do no harm and the fact is doing almost nothing but harm. It's dramatically unethical. People are being lied to in the process and we are dealing with, once again, with fraud. There's nothing ethical here. You know, and the fact that the state is involved with it, this is particularly problematic, the state is not supposed to be in the job of brain damaging and lying to people.
Rob: How is the state involved?
BB: The state funds psychiatry. Beyond funding it, it is the foundation of psychiatry's power. Psychiatry can lock people up on the basis of putative mental illnesses because the state says it can. Because the state empowers it to do so. Because our laws are saying, a police officer can pick somebody up on the face there was a psychiatrist can take them to a hospital, etc etc. Psychiatry is underpinned by the laws of the state. If it were not, it would disappear because people would not be going to these. They would eventually discover that there's other things that make them feel a whole lot better than what's happening to them here.
Rob: Now, I know that in other authoritarian nations, psychiatry is used to control protests and people who speak out.
BB: It certainly is and that's just another wrinkle in it, you know, in psychiatry. I mean, there are places where it's used in overt political ways that everyone can see. But in fact all of psychiatry ultimately is political.
Rob: Talk more about how all of psychiatry is political.
BB: If we didn't want a controlled populace, we would not be empowering psychiatry. If we wanted people to live together and to work out their grievances together, we would not be empowering psychiatry.
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