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Constitution, we've given up any hope to influence, control the fears that affect us and others.
Very serious issues around that.
Jimmy Dore
You know, Julian Assange said that power is a thing of perception, they don't need to be able to
kill you, they just need you to think they can kill you. Can you speak a little bit about how Julian
Assange imprisonment has already had an effect on dissenting journalism?
Noam Chomsky
Well, I think, Julian Assange, first of all, provided the vast amount of material we've been talking
about, one particular case, exposing the workrooms, but there's a huge amount of important
material, which is being widely used by journalists, by scholars in all sorts of domains, as well as
others, I'm sure, have.
So in the first instance, he provided a great spur to independent journalism. But then the silence
that you've been talking about is casting a pall over that and they're saying we tolerate
suppression of the independent journalism that we, ourselves, benefit from. We're tolerating its
suppression by looking the other way when there's a sacrifice to be made by a person who
stood out for achieving the goals of true independent journalism, he's being sacrificed. We'll stay
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