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Well, when Julian published Chelsea's revelation of the State Department's diplomatic cables, a
lot of points were made of the fact that a lot of that didn't involve crimes by us, it involved
offenses in crimes and repressions by other people. And Chelsea, why was that worth her
risking prison and actually suffering prison for? Well, Chelsea said at the time her intention was
to show how the First World, us, deals with the Third World, in terms of busting unions in Haiti,
for example. And a very good example is what was revealed about Tunisia, that had Julian
given the information, let's say, only to The New York Times and not to six or seven newspapers
competing with each other, assuring that a lot of it would get out, the information about Tunisia
was not put out by The New York Times and would not have been about the extreme corruption
of their dictator, Ben Ali. [Tom] LaBonge was one of the people that Julian gave this to and they
gave it to their former colony, Tunisia.
It was printed in Le Monde, picked up in Tunisia, and that led to the freeing of Tunisia from
that dictator who fled days later, there should be a statue in Tunisia, in Tunis to
Chelsea and to Julian, actually. And that's one of the rare cases where the Arab uprising, which
it led to, actually, really has worked out reasonably well so far, a genuine liberation that would
not have happened without Julian and Assange and Chelsea putting out this massive
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