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I think was an American idea and a considerable extent, I could be wrong there in the
beginning. But of course, then we saw, no, that's not going to apply to us.
In fact, I think there have actually been statements and even legislation to the effect that we
would use force to free Americans who were otherwise going to be brought to trial in The
Hague, in the International Criminal Court. Of course, the very Collateral Murder video, which
was the first big release on Americans that I saw, by the way, people have forgotten that Julian
had been revealing crimes of state in other countries, including China, for years, before that.
This caught people's attention because it was the Americans.
Truth is that Americans have not shown any interest in prosecuting war crimes by Americans
when there have been some trials, and in this case, of course, we have the obscene spectacle
of this president using Eddie Gallagher as actually a campaign supporter, and this from, a
convicted war criminal whom he pardoned for this. And as I mentioned earlier, as a former
lieutenant in the Marine Corps, platoon leader, and company commander, I still have enough of
that identification in me, despite the sorrows of recent decades of the Marines to be shocked
and shocked as a Marine leader, as a platoon leader on that, at the idea of the message that
sends to everybody that atrocities of which Gallagher was possibly accused by his other people
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