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occurrence in Iraq and it didn't get the attention, it got enough attention that he's still being
charged with it 10 years later. And all those wars, of course, are still going on. They have been
going on for nine years in 2010 when this was revealed and now it's 19 years, still going on.
So the question has been answered in a way that is coming up a great deal this year. What if a
president gives unlawful orders to his subordinates, to military subordinates, either the military
to exercise police or vigilante purpose in American cities right now or to start a nuclear war? The
question has arisen directly for the first time under this president. And the answer has come
back, well, of course, we'd point out to him that it's illegal and we'd be sure that he didn't do that.
Actually, not that's really not very likely at all. And that state of affairs is, of course, all hidden by
the veil of secrecy. You asked the question, of the relation to my case. I was the first person
charged for giving information to the American public under the same statutes and charges as
Julian Assange. We do not have an official secrets act in this country, as in the mother country,
Britain, because we have a First Amendment, the freedom of the press, freedom of thought,
freedom of association, which has always, before my case in 1971, been held to preclude either
a prosecution like mine under any section or specifically an Official Secrets Act, which would
criminalize any release of information that the government wanted to keep secret from the
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