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making these laws, and that's what has to happen, we have to awaken to that fact. I mean,
every one of us should say, what can we do to get Julian Assange and people like him, out of
these prisons. And just find a way, find whatever you can do, it may be small, it may be
whatever, but that's what we can do.
Jimmy Dore
Let me thank you very much. Let me now turn to Daniel Ellsberg, and you were subjected to an
FBI manhunt after you released the Pentagon Papers. Today, Assange is at risk of being
tortured and facing a potential 175-year sentence. Do you see parallels with your case and
Julian Assange's' case?
Daniel Ellsberg
Certainly very close parallels, on the point you just raised, of course, Julian Assange is not in
the potential of being tortured, he has been tortured for, I could really say, for about eight years
now, but in particular, for the last 18 months, kept in a cell in isolation in a prison for terrorists
here for telling the truth at a time when he had in the Ecuadorian embassy, already was
suffering from severe pains in his shoulder, from terrible dental problems, which could not be
dealt with in the Ecuadorian embassy. And the British would not give him any assurance that he
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