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Well, it hasn't worked out well for democracy or for our victims in Iraq and Afghanistan, Somalia,
Sudan, all these other places that are victimized in secret wars and it hasn't worked out well for
our democracy at all. So the Assange case gives journalists a chance now to write, to focus
their attention, at last, on the direct threat to their freedom of speech and the unauthorized
disclosure, which is the lifeblood of a republic.
Jimmy Dore
You know, Barack Obama did not prosecute the people who ordered a torture program or
carried it out. And he said that he wasn't going to prosecute them was because all those crimes
happened in the past and Barack Obama was looking towards the future. And I guess all those
people in prison are upset they committed their crimes in the future, I guess. He most recently at
the Democratic convention, Barack Obama said that nobody's above the law, including the
president, yet war criminals are walking free and Julian Assange isn't in jail. Do you have any
ideas on how we can bring war criminals to justice in this day and age?
Daniel Ellsberg
In countries like the U.S., superpowers, victorious or defeated, as in Vietnam, we don't have
crimes trials, and we refuse, of course, the jurisdiction of the International Criminal Court, which
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