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human aspects of this, I was really disappointed also, by Jeffrey Sterling, a CIA person that was
not given proper medical attention when he had revealed a total bungle by the CIA and they
were out to get him as a result.
OK, Chelsea's case, where she was held in solitary confinement for 10 and a half months in
Quantico, which led to a lot of public protests, made people aware of how common this solitary
confinement actually is.
Jimmy, you started out by asking questions about torture. It is clear that that is torture, as the
rapporteur for torture at the UN two of them actually in succession, have said that this is
torture. And I think Chelsea's own case made a lot of people aware for the first time what was
happening to a white person. It made them aware, wait a minute, this happens all the time.
People are held for years in solitary confinement and of course, mainly people of color are
convicted of that. That is torture, that is going on right now and should be illegal. So that's a
practice that should change. One last thing, when Alice mentioned how so much of this is done
to people of color. Well, so many of our illegal war, imperial wars in the world are to keep hold of
former colonies, and who were former colonies they are almost always people of color, right. So
they've been screwed over, in other words, for centuries now and by us, in turn.
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